{"version":"https://jsonfeed.org/version/1","title":"Circumscription","home_page_url":"https://circumscription.fireside.fm","feed_url":"https://circumscription.fireside.fm/json","description":"Much of what gives life meaning, continuity, and order is the act of setting boundaries. Much of what gives you a clear sense of who and what you are is a clear sense of who and what you're not. This is a podcast about drawing such lines. It's about the processes involved in setting and maintaining boundaries, but also stretching and crossing them. We explore questions about these issues in three areas: collective identity, religion, and constitutional law.","_fireside":{"subtitle":"Where We Set The Limits","pubdate":"2025-09-02T05:00:00.000-04:00","explicit":false,"copyright":"2025 by Michael Sargent","owner":"Michael Sargent","image":"https://media24.fireside.fm/file/fireside-images-2024/podcasts/images/9/92d4f201-c679-4a52-8c80-a47e41397da4/cover.jpg?v=1"},"items":[{"id":"7e949d41-a059-48f0-aab7-e866d57683bb","title":"Episode 5: Drawn Out","url":"https://circumscription.fireside.fm/5","content_text":"David Gans is Director of the Human Rights, Civil Rights \u0026amp; Citizenship Program at the Constitutional Accountability Center. In this episode, we discussed voting rights and redistricting, with an emphasis on the Louisiana v. Callais case that is set to be reargued before the Supreme Court on October 15, 2025. \n\nOTHER LINKS\n--Merrill v. Milligan (later retitled Allen v. Milligan) oral argument\n--Allen v. Milligan opinion\n--Wikipedia on the Voting Rights Act of 1965\n--\"Section 2 of the Voting Rights Act: Vote dilution and vote deprivation,\" SCOTUSblog\n--\"Court asks for new briefs in Louisiana redistricting case\", by Amy Howe at SCOTUSblog\n--\"How the Supreme Court made racial gerrymandering easier in Alexander v. South Carolina NAACP,\" League of Women Voters Blog\n--\"Justice Ketanji Brown Jackson emerges as a leading dissenter in an era of Trump,\" by John Fritze, at CNN\n\nMUSIC CREDITS (all songs from Free Music Archive, and each song carries the \"cc by\" license)\n--\"The Trail,\" by Unheard Music Concepts\n--\"Breath,\" by Kirk Osamayo\n--\"Anti-Chill,\" by Jangwa\n--\"Post Drone,\" by Uuriter\n--\"Cello,\" by Ketsa\n--\"Caress me to sleep,\" by ruiSpecial Guest: David Gans.","content_html":"\u003cp\u003e\u003ca href=\"https://www.theusconstitution.org/staff/david-h-gans/\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003eDavid Gans\u003c/a\u003e is Director of the Human Rights, Civil Rights \u0026amp; Citizenship Program at the Constitutional Accountability Center. In this episode, we discussed voting rights and redistricting, with an emphasis on the Louisiana v. Callais case that is set to be reargued before the Supreme Court on October 15, 2025. \u003c/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003e\u003cstrong\u003eOTHER LINKS\u003c/strong\u003e\u003cbr\u003e\n\u003ca href=\"https://www.supremecourt.gov/oral_arguments/audio/2022/21-1086\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003e--\u003cem\u003eMerrill v. Milligan\u003c/em\u003e (later retitled \u003cem\u003eAllen v. Milligan\u003c/em\u003e) oral argument\u003c/a\u003e\u003cbr\u003e\n\u003ca href=\"https://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/22pdf/21-1086_1co6.pdf\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003e--\u003cem\u003eAllen v. Milligan\u003c/em\u003e opinion\u003c/a\u003e\u003cbr\u003e\n\u003ca href=\"https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voting_Rights_Act_of_1965\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003e--Wikipedia on the Voting Rights Act of 1965\u003c/a\u003e\u003cbr\u003e\n\u003ca href=\"https://www.scotusblog.com/election-law-explainers/section-2-of-the-voting-rights-act-vote-dilution-and-vote-deprivation/\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003e--\u0026quot;Section 2 of the Voting Rights Act: Vote dilution and vote deprivation,\u0026quot; SCOTUSblog\u003c/a\u003e\u003cbr\u003e\n\u003ca href=\"https://www.scotusblog.com/2025/08/court-asks-for-new-briefs-in-louisiana-redistricting-case/\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003e--\u0026quot;Court asks for new briefs in Louisiana redistricting case\u0026quot;, by Amy Howe at \u003cem\u003eSCOTUSblog\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003cbr\u003e\n\u003ca href=\"https://www.lwv.org/blog/how-supreme-court-made-racial-gerrymandering-easier-alexander-v-south-carolina-naacp\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003e--\u0026quot;How the Supreme Court made racial gerrymandering easier in \u003cem\u003eAlexander v. South Carolina NAACP\u003c/em\u003e,\u0026quot; League of Women Voters Blog\u003c/a\u003e\u003cbr\u003e\n\u003ca href=\"https://www.cnn.com/2025/07/09/politics/ketanji-brown-jackson-leading-dissenter-trump-era\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003e--\u0026quot;Justice Ketanji Brown Jackson emerges as a leading dissenter in an era of Trump,\u0026quot; by John Fritze, at CNN\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003e\u003cstrong\u003eMUSIC CREDITS (all songs from Free Music Archive, and each song carries the \u0026quot;cc by\u0026quot; license)\u003c/strong\u003e\u003cbr\u003e\n--\u0026quot;The Trail,\u0026quot; by Unheard Music Concepts\u003cbr\u003e\n--\u0026quot;Breath,\u0026quot; by Kirk Osamayo\u003cbr\u003e\n--\u0026quot;Anti-Chill,\u0026quot; by Jangwa\u003cbr\u003e\n--\u0026quot;Post Drone,\u0026quot; by Uuriter\u003cbr\u003e\n--\u0026quot;Cello,\u0026quot; by Ketsa\u003cbr\u003e\n--\u0026quot;Caress me to sleep,\u0026quot; by rui\u003c/p\u003e\u003cp\u003eSpecial Guest: David Gans.\u003c/p\u003e","summary":"A conversation with legal expert David Gans, focusing on voting rights and redistricting.","date_published":"2025-09-02T05:00:00.000-04:00","attachments":[{"url":"https://aphid.fireside.fm/d/1437767933/92d4f201-c679-4a52-8c80-a47e41397da4/7e949d41-a059-48f0-aab7-e866d57683bb.mp3","mime_type":"audio/mpeg","size_in_bytes":24323792,"duration_in_seconds":3040}]},{"id":"95c1648b-7e0c-438a-b397-4ad630de0821","title":"Episode 4: Here Be Dragons","url":"https://circumscription.fireside.fm/4","content_text":"Kimberly Rios is Professor of Psychology at the University of Illinois Urbana-Champaign. She studies intergroup threat and also psychological issues at the intersection of religion and STEM. In this episode, we discuss the psychology of intergroup threat, applications to a salient contemporary case, and also issues involving religion and STEM.\n\nOTHER LINKS\n--Informational video on EPIC City\n--WFAA story on EPIC City\n--Drinking Liberally, Wikipedia page\n--\"Fairness is Overrated,\" by Jonathan V. Last, at The Bulwark\n--\"The World's Muslims: Religion, Politics, and Society,\" by the Pew Research Center\n\nMUSIC CREDITS (all songs from Free Music Archive, and each song carries the \"cc by\" license)\n--\"The Trail,\" by Unheard Music Concepts\n--\"Breath,\" by Kirk Osamayo\n--\"Funky End,\" by Pawel Feszczuk\n--\"Post Drone,\" by Uuriter\n--\"Caress me to sleep,\" by ruiSpecial Guest: Kimberly Rios.","content_html":"\u003cp\u003e\u003ca href=\"https://psychology.illinois.edu/directory/profile/kmrios\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003eKimberly Rios\u003c/a\u003e is Professor of Psychology at the University of Illinois Urbana-Champaign. She studies intergroup threat and also psychological issues at the intersection of religion and STEM. In this episode, we discuss the psychology of intergroup threat, applications to a salient contemporary case, and also issues involving religion and STEM.\u003c/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003e\u003cstrong\u003eOTHER LINKS\u003c/strong\u003e\u003cbr\u003e\n\u003ca href=\"https://youtu.be/iWG6rSVeETA?si=rqCeLG2iWScuVxXC\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003e--Informational video on EPIC City\u003c/a\u003e\u003cbr\u003e\n\u003ca href=\"https://youtu.be/tXllDIZaRbs?si=Cr0uhJeSWiXFONLk\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003e--WFAA story on EPIC City\u003c/a\u003e\u003cbr\u003e\n\u003ca href=\"https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Drinking_Liberally\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003e--Drinking Liberally, Wikipedia page\u003c/a\u003e\u003cbr\u003e\n\u003ca href=\"https://www.thebulwark.com/p/fairness-is-overrated\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003e--\u0026quot;Fairness is Overrated,\u0026quot; by Jonathan V. Last, at The Bulwark\u003c/a\u003e\u003cbr\u003e\n\u003ca href=\"https://www.pewresearch.org/religion/2013/04/30/the-worlds-muslims-religion-politics-society-science-and-popular-culture/\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003e--\u0026quot;The World\u0026#39;s Muslims: Religion, Politics, and Society,\u0026quot; by the Pew Research Center\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003e\u003cstrong\u003eMUSIC CREDITS (all songs from Free Music Archive, and each song carries the \u0026quot;cc by\u0026quot; license)\u003c/strong\u003e\u003cbr\u003e\n--\u0026quot;The Trail,\u0026quot; by Unheard Music Concepts\u003cbr\u003e\n--\u0026quot;Breath,\u0026quot; by Kirk Osamayo\u003cbr\u003e\n--\u0026quot;Funky End,\u0026quot; by Pawel Feszczuk\u003cbr\u003e\n--\u0026quot;Post Drone,\u0026quot; by Uuriter\u003cbr\u003e\n--\u0026quot;Caress me to sleep,\u0026quot; by rui\u003c/p\u003e\u003cp\u003eSpecial Guest: Kimberly Rios.\u003c/p\u003e","summary":"A conversation with Kim Rios, about intergroup threat, and more.","date_published":"2025-08-19T05:00:00.000-04:00","attachments":[{"url":"https://aphid.fireside.fm/d/1437767933/92d4f201-c679-4a52-8c80-a47e41397da4/95c1648b-7e0c-438a-b397-4ad630de0821.mp3","mime_type":"audio/mpeg","size_in_bytes":22511939,"duration_in_seconds":2813}]},{"id":"d2d7f2ed-dc5a-4bbd-a306-3b95a74e963b","title":"Episode 3: Equals Under The Law","url":"https://circumscription.fireside.fm/3","content_text":"Paul Gowder is Professor of Law at the Pritzker School of Law at Northwestern University, in Chicago. He's the author of several books, including The Rule of the Law in the Real World, and The Rule of Law in the United States: An Unfinished Project of Black Liberation. In this episode, we discuss the history and current status of the rule of law in the U.S., exploring connections to the historic struggle for Black Americans' civil and human rights\n\nOTHER LINKS\n--President Trump's May 4, 2025 appearance on NBC's Meet the Press\n--Wikipedia entry on Margaret Morgan\n--Wikipedia entry on Dred Scott\n--history.com page on the Fugitive Slave Acts of 1793 and 1850\n--PBS Frontline documentary \"Trump's Power \u0026amp; The Rule of Law\"\n--Dr. Martin Luther King Jr.'s \"Letter from a Birmingham Jail\"\n--Lord Bingham's Sir David Williams Lecture: \"The Rule of Law\"\n--Private Truths, Public Lies: The Social Consequences of Preference Falsification, by Timur Kuran\n\nMUSIC CREDITS (all songs from Free Music Archive, and each song carries the \"cc by\" license)\n--\"The Trail,\" by Unheard Music Concepts\n--\"Monsters of the Past,\" by Pawel Feszczuk\n--\"Precisamos de um plano,\" by rui\n--\"Light Lab,\" by Rest You Sleeping Giant\n--\"Caress me to sleep,\" by ruiSpecial Guest: Paul Gowder.","content_html":"\u003cp\u003e\u003ca href=\"https://gowder.io/\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003ePaul Gowder\u003c/a\u003e is Professor of Law at the Pritzker School of Law at Northwestern University, in Chicago. He\u0026#39;s the author of several books, including \u003cem\u003e\u003ca href=\"https://www.amazon.com/Rule-Law-Real-World/dp/1316502023\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003eThe Rule of the Law in the Real World\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/em\u003e, and \u003cem\u003e\u003ca href=\"https://www.amazon.com/Rule-Law-United-States-Unfinished/dp/150995466X/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8\u0026dib_tag=se\u0026dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.Z5S15r9vNr5ZhFUKb2yZsO_P_412lbt4K9eWnVuNI5blKNrg6Cx_G7BWJZPP8-VIOkpHN5SsxTp_m6t2hckM-6I6PeSFyq5ojHNT70CT1E8.13xS4XB_qDeoAPfN19RNZU6G7v_d960u2wjfaATyG9s\u0026qid=1754075495\u0026sr=1-1\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003eThe Rule of Law in the United States: An Unfinished Project of Black Liberation\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/em\u003e. In this episode, we discuss the history and current status of the rule of law in the U.S., exploring connections to the historic struggle for Black Americans\u0026#39; civil and human rights\u003c/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003e\u003cstrong\u003eOTHER LINKS\u003c/strong\u003e\u003cbr\u003e\n\u003ca href=\"https://youtu.be/tuPI1-Gp_5s?si=9pVLgo0NfKSJ0tF2\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003e--President Trump\u0026#39;s May 4, 2025 appearance on NBC\u0026#39;s \u003cem\u003eMeet the Press\u003c/em\u003e\u003c/a\u003e\u003cbr\u003e\n\u003ca href=\"https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Margaret_Morgan_(slave)\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003e--Wikipedia entry on Margaret Morgan\u003c/a\u003e\u003cbr\u003e\n\u003ca href=\"https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dred_Scott\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003e--Wikipedia entry on Dred Scott\u003c/a\u003e\u003cbr\u003e\n\u003ca href=\"https://www.history.com/articles/fugitive-slave-acts\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003e--history.com page on the Fugitive Slave Acts of 1793 and 1850\u003c/a\u003e\u003cbr\u003e\n\u003ca href=\"https://youtu.be/28sQyweAPRs?si=0YFyuw8zMd4_769u\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003e--PBS Frontline documentary \u0026quot;Trump\u0026#39;s Power \u0026amp; The Rule of Law\u0026quot;\u003c/a\u003e\u003cbr\u003e\n\u003ca href=\"https://www.africa.upenn.edu/Articles_Gen/Letter_Birmingham.html\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003e--Dr. Martin Luther King Jr.\u0026#39;s \u0026quot;Letter from a Birmingham Jail\u0026quot;\u003c/a\u003e\u003cbr\u003e\n\u003ca href=\"http://netk.net.au/RuleOfLaw/Bingham1.asp\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003e--Lord Bingham\u0026#39;s Sir David Williams Lecture: \u0026quot;The Rule of Law\u0026quot;\u003c/a\u003e\u003cbr\u003e\n\u003ca href=\"https://www.amazon.com/Private-Truths-Public-Lies-Falsification/dp/0674707583\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003e--\u003cem\u003ePrivate Truths, Public Lies: The Social Consequences of Preference Falsification\u003c/em\u003e, by Timur Kuran\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003e\u003cstrong\u003eMUSIC CREDITS (all songs from Free Music Archive, and each song carries the \u0026quot;cc by\u0026quot; license)\u003c/strong\u003e\u003cbr\u003e\n--\u0026quot;The Trail,\u0026quot; by Unheard Music Concepts\u003cbr\u003e\n--\u0026quot;Monsters of the Past,\u0026quot; by Pawel Feszczuk\u003cbr\u003e\n--\u0026quot;Precisamos de um plano,\u0026quot; by rui\u003cbr\u003e\n--\u0026quot;Light Lab,\u0026quot; by Rest You Sleeping Giant\u003cbr\u003e\n--\u0026quot;Caress me to sleep,\u0026quot; by rui\u003c/p\u003e\u003cp\u003eSpecial Guest: Paul Gowder.\u003c/p\u003e","summary":"A conversation with law professor Paul Gowder, about the rule of law in the U.S.","date_published":"2025-08-05T05:00:00.000-04:00","attachments":[{"url":"https://aphid.fireside.fm/d/1437767933/92d4f201-c679-4a52-8c80-a47e41397da4/d2d7f2ed-dc5a-4bbd-a306-3b95a74e963b.mp3","mime_type":"audio/mpeg","size_in_bytes":27678751,"duration_in_seconds":3459}]},{"id":"aebd2928-ed53-4625-83cb-ac7805b96ab8","title":"Episode 2: Forever In The Path","url":"https://circumscription.fireside.fm/2","content_text":"Arthur Remillard is Professor of Religious Studies and Department Chair of Theology and Philosophy, as well as Dean of STEAM (Science, Technology, Engingeering, Arts, and Mathematics) at Saint Francis University, in Loretto, Pennsylvania. He is author of the book Southern Civil Religions, as well as a new book, Bodies in Motion: A Religious History of Sports in America.\n\nOTHER LINKS\n--\"Civil Religion in America,\" by Robert N. Bellah\n--\"The Meaning of Prayer at a Political Convention,\" by Esau McCaulley\n--\"In Trump, We Have Abandoned Our Civil Religion — And We Are No Longer The Same,\" by John D. Carlson\n\nMUSIC CREDITS (all songs from Free Music Archive, and each song carries the \"cc by\" license)\n--\"The Trail,\" by Unheard Music Concepts\n--\"Light Lab,\" by Rest You Sleeping Giant\n--\"Pleasure\" by Haunted Me\n--\"Funky End,\" by Pawel Feszczuk\n--\"Post Drone\" by Uuriter\n--\"Caress me to sleep,\" by ruiSpecial Guest: Arthur Remillard.","content_html":"\u003cp\u003e\u003ca href=\"https://www.francis.edu/academics/faculty-directory/arthur-remillard\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003eArthur Remillard\u003c/a\u003e is Professor of Religious Studies and Department Chair of Theology and Philosophy, as well as Dean of STEAM (Science, Technology, Engingeering, Arts, and Mathematics) at Saint Francis University, in Loretto, Pennsylvania. He is author of the book \u003cem\u003eSouthern Civil Religions\u003c/em\u003e, as well as a new book, \u003cem\u003eBodies in Motion: A Religious History of Sports in America\u003c/em\u003e.\u003c/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003e\u003cstrong\u003eOTHER LINKS\u003c/strong\u003e\u003cbr\u003e\n\u003ca href=\"http://www.robertbellah.com/articles_5.htm\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003e--\u0026quot;Civil Religion in America,\u0026quot; by Robert N. Bellah\u003c/a\u003e\u003cbr\u003e\n\u003ca href=\"https://www.nytimes.com/2024/07/21/opinion/republican-convention-prayer.html\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003e--\u0026quot;The Meaning of Prayer at a Political Convention,\u0026quot; by Esau McCaulley\u003c/a\u003e\u003cbr\u003e\n\u003ca href=\"https://religionnews.com/2025/01/23/in-trump-we-have-abandoned-our-civil-religion-and-we-are-no-longer-the-same/\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003e--\u0026quot;In Trump, We Have Abandoned Our Civil Religion — And We Are No Longer The Same,\u0026quot; by John D. Carlson\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003e\u003cstrong\u003eMUSIC CREDITS (all songs from Free Music Archive, and each song carries the \u0026quot;cc by\u0026quot; license)\u003c/strong\u003e\u003cbr\u003e\n--\u0026quot;The Trail,\u0026quot; by Unheard Music Concepts\u003cbr\u003e\n--\u0026quot;Light Lab,\u0026quot; by Rest You Sleeping Giant\u003cbr\u003e\n--\u0026quot;Pleasure\u0026quot; by Haunted Me\u003cbr\u003e\n--\u0026quot;Funky End,\u0026quot; by Pawel Feszczuk\u003cbr\u003e\n--\u0026quot;Post Drone\u0026quot; by Uuriter\u003cbr\u003e\n--\u0026quot;Caress me to sleep,\u0026quot; by rui\u003c/p\u003e\u003cp\u003eSpecial Guest: Arthur Remillard.\u003c/p\u003e","summary":"A conversation with scholar Art Remillard, about civil religion in the U.S.","date_published":"2025-07-23T05:00:00.000-04:00","attachments":[{"url":"https://aphid.fireside.fm/d/1437767933/92d4f201-c679-4a52-8c80-a47e41397da4/aebd2928-ed53-4625-83cb-ac7805b96ab8.mp3","mime_type":"audio/mpeg","size_in_bytes":28290434,"duration_in_seconds":3536}]},{"id":"70bd62d7-c70f-45c2-ae39-5d2347638134","title":"Episode 1: God, Grace, and Grudges","url":"https://circumscription.fireside.fm/1","content_text":"Mikey Pasek is a social psychologist, and is an Assistant Professor of Psychology at the University of Illinois Chicago. He leads the Belief, Identity, and Group Relations Lab at UIC. We discussed a range of topics, including religion, big and moralizing gods, Christian nationalism, race, and how to alter anti-democratic attitudes.\n\nOTHER LINKS\n--White House Executive Order: Eradicating Anti-Christian Bias\n--Beyond Conflict\n--Interfaith Philadelphia\n--God Is Not Great, by Christopher Hitchens\n--Big Gods: How Religion Transformed Cooperation and Conflict, by Ara Norenzayan\n--Southern Poverty Law Center Page on The Westboro Baptist Church\n--\"Black Liberation Theology, in its Founder's Word\" (Interview on NPR's Fresh Air)\n--\"Religious ‘Nones’ in America: Who They Are and What They Believe\" (Pew Research Center)\n--Martin Luther King Jr. and the American Revolution\n\nMUSIC CREDITS (all songs from Free Music Archive, and each song carries the \"cc by\" license)\n--\"The Trail,\" by Unheard Music Concepts\n--\"Funky End,\" by Pawel Feszczuk\n--\"Caress me to sleep,\" by rui\n--\"Monsters of the past,\" by Pawel Feszczuk\n--\"Precisamos de um plano,\" by rui\n--\"Light Lab,\" by Rest You Sleeping GiantSpecial Guest: Michael Pasek.","content_html":"\u003cp\u003e\u003ca href=\"https://psch.uic.edu/profiles/pasek-michael/\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003eMikey Pasek\u003c/a\u003e is a social psychologist, and is an Assistant Professor of Psychology at the University of Illinois Chicago. He leads the \u003ca href=\"https://bigr.psch.uic.edu/\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003eBelief, Identity, and Group Relations Lab\u003c/a\u003e at UIC. We discussed a range of topics, including religion, big and moralizing gods, Christian nationalism, race, and how to alter anti-democratic attitudes.\u003c/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003e\u003cstrong\u003eOTHER LINKS\u003c/strong\u003e\u003cbr\u003e\n\u003ca href=\"https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/2025/02/eradicating-anti-christian-bias/\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003e--White House Executive Order: Eradicating Anti-Christian Bias\u003c/a\u003e\u003cbr\u003e\n\u003ca href=\"https://beyondconflictint.org/\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003e--Beyond Conflict\u003c/a\u003e\u003cbr\u003e\n\u003ca href=\"https://www.interfaithphiladelphia.org/\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003e--Interfaith Philadelphia\u003c/a\u003e\u003cbr\u003e\n\u003ca href=\"https://www.amazon.com/God-Not-Great-Religion-Everything/dp/0446697966\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003e\u003cem\u003e--God Is Not Great\u003c/em\u003e, by Christopher Hitchens\u003c/a\u003e\u003cbr\u003e\n\u003ca href=\"https://press.princeton.edu/books/paperback/9780691169743/big-gods\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003e\u003cem\u003e--Big Gods: How Religion Transformed Cooperation and Conflict\u003c/em\u003e, by Ara Norenzayan\u003c/a\u003e\u003cbr\u003e\n\u003ca href=\"https://www.splcenter.org/resources/extremist-files/westboro-baptist-church/\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003e--Southern Poverty Law Center Page on The Westboro Baptist Church\u003c/a\u003e\u003cbr\u003e\n\u003ca href=\"https://www.npr.org/2008/03/31/89236116/black-liberation-theology-in-its-founders-words\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003e--\u0026quot;Black Liberation Theology, in its Founder\u0026#39;s Word\u0026quot; (Interview on NPR\u0026#39;s \u003cem\u003eFresh Air\u003c/em\u003e)\u003c/a\u003e\u003cbr\u003e\n\u003ca href=\"https://www.pewresearch.org/religion/2024/01/24/religious-nones-in-america-who-they-are-and-what-they-believe/\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003e--\u0026quot;Religious ‘Nones’ in America: Who They Are and What They Believe\u0026quot; (Pew Research Center)\u003c/a\u003e\u003cbr\u003e\n\u003ca href=\"https://www.amrevmuseum.org/dr-martin-luther-king-jr-and-the-promises-of-the-american-revolution\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003e--Martin Luther King Jr. and the American Revolution\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003e\u003cstrong\u003eMUSIC CREDITS (all songs from Free Music Archive, and each song carries the \u0026quot;cc by\u0026quot; license)\u003c/strong\u003e\u003cbr\u003e\n--\u0026quot;The Trail,\u0026quot; by Unheard Music Concepts\u003cbr\u003e\n--\u0026quot;Funky End,\u0026quot; by Pawel Feszczuk\u003cbr\u003e\n--\u0026quot;Caress me to sleep,\u0026quot; by rui\u003cbr\u003e\n--\u0026quot;Monsters of the past,\u0026quot; by Pawel Feszczuk\u003cbr\u003e\n--\u0026quot;Precisamos de um plano,\u0026quot; by rui\u003cbr\u003e\n--\u0026quot;Light Lab,\u0026quot; by Rest You Sleeping Giant\u003c/p\u003e\u003cp\u003eSpecial Guest: Michael Pasek.\u003c/p\u003e","summary":"A conversation with Mikey Pasek, about religion, identity, and politics.","date_published":"2025-07-08T05:00:00.000-04:00","attachments":[{"url":"https://aphid.fireside.fm/d/1437767933/92d4f201-c679-4a52-8c80-a47e41397da4/70bd62d7-c70f-45c2-ae39-5d2347638134.mp3","mime_type":"audio/mpeg","size_in_bytes":26649317,"duration_in_seconds":3331}]}]}