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    <title>Circumscription - Episodes Tagged with “#Trump”</title>
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    <description>Much of what gives life meaning, continuity, and order is the act of setting boundaries. Much of what gives you a clear sense of who and what you are is a clear sense of who and what you're not. This is a podcast about drawing such lines. It's about the processes involved in setting and maintaining boundaries, but also stretching and crossing them. We explore questions about boundaries and identity in three areas: religion, foreign policy, and constitutional law.
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    <itunes:subtitle>Where We Set The Limits</itunes:subtitle>
    <itunes:author>Michael Sargent</itunes:author>
    <itunes:summary>Much of what gives life meaning, continuity, and order is the act of setting boundaries. Much of what gives you a clear sense of who and what you are is a clear sense of who and what you're not. This is a podcast about drawing such lines. It's about the processes involved in setting and maintaining boundaries, but also stretching and crossing them. We explore questions about boundaries and identity in three areas: religion, foreign policy, and constitutional law.
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    <itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
    <itunes:keywords>self, identity, religion, faith, constitutions, constitutional law, foreign policy</itunes:keywords>
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      <itunes:name>Michael Sargent</itunes:name>
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  <title>Episode 15: Decline and Fall</title>
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  <pubDate>Tue, 03 Feb 2026 05:00:00 -0500</pubDate>
  <author>Michael Sargent</author>
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  <itunes:subtitle>A discussion with two political scientists about how we in the U.S. got here, and what change might require.</itunes:subtitle>
  <itunes:duration>54:47</itunes:duration>
  <itunes:explicit>yes</itunes:explicit>
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  <description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href="https://cla.umn.edu/about/directory/profile/federico" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Chris Federico&lt;/a&gt; is Professor of Political Science and Psychology at the University of Minnesota and the Arleen C. Carlson Professor of American Government and Politics. He’s also past president of the International Society of Political Psychology. &lt;a href="https://drericlmcdaniel.com/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Eric McDaniel&lt;/a&gt; is a Professor in the Department of Government at the University of Texas at Austin, and author of two books, &lt;a href="https://www.cambridge.org/core/books/everyday-crusade/34A0EF92928EB4E3AC25B014B6DF0FFC" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;&lt;em&gt;The Everyday Crusade: Religious Nationalism in American Politics&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;, as well as &lt;a href="https://press.umich.edu/Books/P/Politics-in-the-Pews2" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;&lt;em&gt;Politics in the Pews: The Political Mobilization of Black Churches&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;. The three of us discussed the background leading up to this moment in U.S. history, and what it might take for change to occur.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;OTHER LINKS&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br&gt;
&lt;a href="https://youtu.be/jrnRU3ocIH4?si=LCgoNz8HbdG_9IXZ" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;--"McCain counters Obama 'Arab' question," from YouTube&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;
&lt;a href="https://youtu.be/5llMaZ80ErY?si=nCYEDGsfGxkvepx3" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;--"Trump: They're eating the dogs, the cats," from YouTube&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;
&lt;a href="https://youtu.be/wBi_c_unAdI?si=rWf76XJQE6feST7S" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;--"New angle shows moment federal agents shoot Alex Pretti in Minneapolis," from YouTube&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;
&lt;a href="https://www.lillianamason.com/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;--Lilliana Mason's website&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;
&lt;a href="https://www.cambridge.org/core/books/social-dominance/ADA29C256881001463D6E2777404DB95" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;--&lt;em&gt;Social dominance&lt;/em&gt;, by Sidanius and Pratto&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;
&lt;a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Curse_and_mark_of_Cain" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;--"Curse and mark of Cain," Wikipedia entry&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;
&lt;a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Curse_of_Ham" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;--"Curse of Ham," Wikipedia entry&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;
&lt;a href="https://www.cambridge.org/core/journals/american-political-science-review/article/new-measure-of-affective-polarization/DEF7FCC26D4F09BDE5603BCC02B4765D" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;--"A new measure of affective polarization," (in press) by Campos and Federico, in the &lt;em&gt;American Political Science Review&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;
&lt;a href="https://sites.google.com/view/lindaskitka" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;--Linda Skitka's website&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;
&lt;a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sermon_on_the_Mount" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;--"The Sermon on the Mount," Wikipedia entry&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;
&lt;a href="https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/5715767-jasmine-crockett-james-talarico-texas-primary-poll/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;--"Crockett, Talarico locked in dead heat in Texas Senate primary: Poll," The Hill&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;
&lt;a href="https://research.ebsco.com/c/fc2myp/search/results" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;--"Polarized attitudes and anti-democratic attitudes: Robust evidence for paradoxical relationaships among American partisans," (2025) by Malka et al. in &lt;em&gt;Political Studies&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;MUSIC CREDITS (all songs from Free Music Archive, and each song carries the "cc by" license)&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br&gt;
--"The Trail," by Unheard Music Concepts&lt;br&gt;
--"Funky End," by Pawel Feszczuk&lt;br&gt;
--"Imprecation," by Kevin Hartnell&lt;br&gt;
--"Pleasure," by Haunted Me&lt;br&gt;
--"Caress me to sleep," by rui Special Guests: Christopher Federico and Eric McDaniel.&lt;/p&gt;
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  <itunes:keywords>politics, identity, ideology, Trump, partisanship, religion</itunes:keywords>
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    <![CDATA[<p><a href="https://cla.umn.edu/about/directory/profile/federico" rel="nofollow">Chris Federico</a> is Professor of Political Science and Psychology at the University of Minnesota and the Arleen C. Carlson Professor of American Government and Politics. He’s also past president of the International Society of Political Psychology. <a href="https://drericlmcdaniel.com/" rel="nofollow">Eric McDaniel</a> is a Professor in the Department of Government at the University of Texas at Austin, and author of two books, <a href="https://www.cambridge.org/core/books/everyday-crusade/34A0EF92928EB4E3AC25B014B6DF0FFC" rel="nofollow"><em>The Everyday Crusade: Religious Nationalism in American Politics</em></a>, as well as <a href="https://press.umich.edu/Books/P/Politics-in-the-Pews2" rel="nofollow"><em>Politics in the Pews: The Political Mobilization of Black Churches</em></a>. The three of us discussed the background leading up to this moment in U.S. history, and what it might take for change to occur.</p>

<p><strong>OTHER LINKS</strong><br>
<a href="https://youtu.be/jrnRU3ocIH4?si=LCgoNz8HbdG_9IXZ" rel="nofollow">--&quot;McCain counters Obama &#39;Arab&#39; question,&quot; from YouTube</a><br>
<a href="https://youtu.be/5llMaZ80ErY?si=nCYEDGsfGxkvepx3" rel="nofollow">--&quot;Trump: They&#39;re eating the dogs, the cats,&quot; from YouTube</a><br>
<a href="https://youtu.be/wBi_c_unAdI?si=rWf76XJQE6feST7S" rel="nofollow">--&quot;New angle shows moment federal agents shoot Alex Pretti in Minneapolis,&quot; from YouTube</a><br>
<a href="https://www.lillianamason.com/" rel="nofollow">--Lilliana Mason&#39;s website</a><br>
<a href="https://www.cambridge.org/core/books/social-dominance/ADA29C256881001463D6E2777404DB95" rel="nofollow">--<em>Social dominance</em>, by Sidanius and Pratto</a><br>
<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Curse_and_mark_of_Cain" rel="nofollow">--&quot;Curse and mark of Cain,&quot; Wikipedia entry</a><br>
<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Curse_of_Ham" rel="nofollow">--&quot;Curse of Ham,&quot; Wikipedia entry</a><br>
<a href="https://www.cambridge.org/core/journals/american-political-science-review/article/new-measure-of-affective-polarization/DEF7FCC26D4F09BDE5603BCC02B4765D" rel="nofollow">--&quot;A new measure of affective polarization,&quot; (in press) by Campos and Federico, in the <em>American Political Science Review</em></a><br>
<a href="https://sites.google.com/view/lindaskitka" rel="nofollow">--Linda Skitka&#39;s website</a><br>
<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sermon_on_the_Mount" rel="nofollow">--&quot;The Sermon on the Mount,&quot; Wikipedia entry</a><br>
<a href="https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/5715767-jasmine-crockett-james-talarico-texas-primary-poll/" rel="nofollow">--&quot;Crockett, Talarico locked in dead heat in Texas Senate primary: Poll,&quot; The Hill</a><br>
<a href="https://research.ebsco.com/c/fc2myp/search/results" rel="nofollow">--&quot;Polarized attitudes and anti-democratic attitudes: Robust evidence for paradoxical relationaships among American partisans,&quot; (2025) by Malka et al. in <em>Political Studies</em></a></p>

<p><strong>MUSIC CREDITS (all songs from Free Music Archive, and each song carries the &quot;cc by&quot; license)</strong><br>
--&quot;The Trail,&quot; by Unheard Music Concepts<br>
--&quot;Funky End,&quot; by Pawel Feszczuk<br>
--&quot;Imprecation,&quot; by Kevin Hartnell<br>
--&quot;Pleasure,&quot; by Haunted Me<br>
--&quot;Caress me to sleep,&quot; by rui</p><p>Special Guests: Christopher Federico and Eric McDaniel.</p>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<p><a href="https://cla.umn.edu/about/directory/profile/federico" rel="nofollow">Chris Federico</a> is Professor of Political Science and Psychology at the University of Minnesota and the Arleen C. Carlson Professor of American Government and Politics. He’s also past president of the International Society of Political Psychology. <a href="https://drericlmcdaniel.com/" rel="nofollow">Eric McDaniel</a> is a Professor in the Department of Government at the University of Texas at Austin, and author of two books, <a href="https://www.cambridge.org/core/books/everyday-crusade/34A0EF92928EB4E3AC25B014B6DF0FFC" rel="nofollow"><em>The Everyday Crusade: Religious Nationalism in American Politics</em></a>, as well as <a href="https://press.umich.edu/Books/P/Politics-in-the-Pews2" rel="nofollow"><em>Politics in the Pews: The Political Mobilization of Black Churches</em></a>. The three of us discussed the background leading up to this moment in U.S. history, and what it might take for change to occur.</p>

<p><strong>OTHER LINKS</strong><br>
<a href="https://youtu.be/jrnRU3ocIH4?si=LCgoNz8HbdG_9IXZ" rel="nofollow">--&quot;McCain counters Obama &#39;Arab&#39; question,&quot; from YouTube</a><br>
<a href="https://youtu.be/5llMaZ80ErY?si=nCYEDGsfGxkvepx3" rel="nofollow">--&quot;Trump: They&#39;re eating the dogs, the cats,&quot; from YouTube</a><br>
<a href="https://youtu.be/wBi_c_unAdI?si=rWf76XJQE6feST7S" rel="nofollow">--&quot;New angle shows moment federal agents shoot Alex Pretti in Minneapolis,&quot; from YouTube</a><br>
<a href="https://www.lillianamason.com/" rel="nofollow">--Lilliana Mason&#39;s website</a><br>
<a href="https://www.cambridge.org/core/books/social-dominance/ADA29C256881001463D6E2777404DB95" rel="nofollow">--<em>Social dominance</em>, by Sidanius and Pratto</a><br>
<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Curse_and_mark_of_Cain" rel="nofollow">--&quot;Curse and mark of Cain,&quot; Wikipedia entry</a><br>
<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Curse_of_Ham" rel="nofollow">--&quot;Curse of Ham,&quot; Wikipedia entry</a><br>
<a href="https://www.cambridge.org/core/journals/american-political-science-review/article/new-measure-of-affective-polarization/DEF7FCC26D4F09BDE5603BCC02B4765D" rel="nofollow">--&quot;A new measure of affective polarization,&quot; (in press) by Campos and Federico, in the <em>American Political Science Review</em></a><br>
<a href="https://sites.google.com/view/lindaskitka" rel="nofollow">--Linda Skitka&#39;s website</a><br>
<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sermon_on_the_Mount" rel="nofollow">--&quot;The Sermon on the Mount,&quot; Wikipedia entry</a><br>
<a href="https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/5715767-jasmine-crockett-james-talarico-texas-primary-poll/" rel="nofollow">--&quot;Crockett, Talarico locked in dead heat in Texas Senate primary: Poll,&quot; The Hill</a><br>
<a href="https://research.ebsco.com/c/fc2myp/search/results" rel="nofollow">--&quot;Polarized attitudes and anti-democratic attitudes: Robust evidence for paradoxical relationaships among American partisans,&quot; (2025) by Malka et al. in <em>Political Studies</em></a></p>

<p><strong>MUSIC CREDITS (all songs from Free Music Archive, and each song carries the &quot;cc by&quot; license)</strong><br>
--&quot;The Trail,&quot; by Unheard Music Concepts<br>
--&quot;Funky End,&quot; by Pawel Feszczuk<br>
--&quot;Imprecation,&quot; by Kevin Hartnell<br>
--&quot;Pleasure,&quot; by Haunted Me<br>
--&quot;Caress me to sleep,&quot; by rui</p><p>Special Guests: Christopher Federico and Eric McDaniel.</p>]]>
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  <title>Episode 12: This Land Is Your Land</title>
  <link>https://circumscription.fireside.fm/12</link>
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  <pubDate>Wed, 10 Dec 2025 05:00:00 -0500</pubDate>
  <author>Michael Sargent</author>
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  <itunes:author>Michael Sargent</itunes:author>
  <itunes:subtitle>A discussion of birthright citizenship and injunctions, with law professor Jacob Hamburger.</itunes:subtitle>
  <itunes:duration>1:11:10</itunes:duration>
  <itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
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  <description>&lt;p&gt;In this conversation, we discuss the history of birthright citizenship in the U.S., as well as the current controversy, including the role of the courts, especially the Supreme Court. My guest is &lt;a href="https://jacob-hamburger.squarespace.com/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Jacob Hamburger&lt;/a&gt;. Hamburger is Assistant Professor of Law in the Marquette Law School. Previously, he taught at Cornell Law, and he earned his J.D. at the University of Chicago Law School. He teaches Immigration Law, Civil Procedure, and a seminar on Immigration Federalism. His research explores the legal processes at the federal, state, and local levels that shape the lives of noncitizens in the United States.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;OTHER LINKS&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br&gt;
--&lt;a href="https://www.nbcnews.com/video/jeb-bush-birthright-citizenship-is-part-of-our-global-heritage-509516867887" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;"Jeb Bush: Birthright citizenship is part of our global [sic] heritage," video clip from NBC News&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;
--&lt;a href="https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/2025/01/protecting-the-meaning-and-value-of-american-citizenship/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;President Trump's executive order on birthright citizenship&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;
--&lt;a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_v._Wong_Kim_Ark" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;&lt;em&gt;United States v. Wong Kim Ark&lt;/em&gt; Wikipedia entry&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;
--&lt;a href="https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=5106022" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;"The consequences of ending birthright citizenship," by Jacob Hamburger, in the Washington University Law Review&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;
--&lt;a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jus_soli" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;&lt;em&gt;Jus soli&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt; vs. &lt;a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jus_sanguinis" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;&lt;em&gt;jus sanguinis&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt; (Wiki entries)&lt;br&gt;
--&lt;a href="https://www.stevevladeck.com/i/180843145/on-the-docket" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;December 8, 2025 edition of Steve Vladeck's "One First" &lt;em&gt;Substack&lt;/em&gt; ("On the docket" section)&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;
--&lt;a href="https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=5463935" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;"Statewide injunctions," by Jacob Hamburger, work in progress&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;
--&lt;a href="https://heinonline.org/HOL/Page?handle=hein.journals/aulr72&amp;amp;div=26&amp;amp;g_sent=1&amp;amp;casa_token=2JnUWN8DHM4AAAAA:Q4P8lGHEjFEeEV2PQczt-Ry88LuAGYmRFHYDE9Jk9RXGSYA3Jl_SaW4QHdxf3UdPgsdIIgc&amp;amp;collection=journals" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;"The rise of the 'immigrant-as-injury' theory of state standing," by Jennifer Lee Koh, in the &lt;em&gt;American University Law Review&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;MUSIC CREDITS (all songs from Free Music Archive, and each song carries the "cc by" license)&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br&gt;
--"The Trail," by Unheard Music Concepts&lt;br&gt;
--"Funky End," by Pawel Feszczuk&lt;br&gt;
--"Pleasure," by Haunted Me&lt;br&gt;
--"Caress me to sleep," by rui Special Guest: Jacob Hamburger.&lt;/p&gt;
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  <itunes:keywords>birthright citizenship, citizenship, immigration, injunctions, constitutional law</itunes:keywords>
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    <![CDATA[<p>In this conversation, we discuss the history of birthright citizenship in the U.S., as well as the current controversy, including the role of the courts, especially the Supreme Court. My guest is <a href="https://jacob-hamburger.squarespace.com/" rel="nofollow">Jacob Hamburger</a>. Hamburger is Assistant Professor of Law in the Marquette Law School. Previously, he taught at Cornell Law, and he earned his J.D. at the University of Chicago Law School. He teaches Immigration Law, Civil Procedure, and a seminar on Immigration Federalism. His research explores the legal processes at the federal, state, and local levels that shape the lives of noncitizens in the United States.</p>

<p><strong>OTHER LINKS</strong><br>
--<a href="https://www.nbcnews.com/video/jeb-bush-birthright-citizenship-is-part-of-our-global-heritage-509516867887" rel="nofollow">&quot;Jeb Bush: Birthright citizenship is part of our global [sic] heritage,&quot; video clip from NBC News</a><br>
--<a href="https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/2025/01/protecting-the-meaning-and-value-of-american-citizenship/" rel="nofollow">President Trump&#39;s executive order on birthright citizenship</a><br>
--<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_v._Wong_Kim_Ark" rel="nofollow"><em>United States v. Wong Kim Ark</em> Wikipedia entry</a><br>
--<a href="https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=5106022" rel="nofollow">&quot;The consequences of ending birthright citizenship,&quot; by Jacob Hamburger, in the Washington University Law Review</a><br>
--<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jus_soli" rel="nofollow"><em>Jus soli</em></a> vs. <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jus_sanguinis" rel="nofollow"><em>jus sanguinis</em></a> (Wiki entries)<br>
--<a href="https://www.stevevladeck.com/i/180843145/on-the-docket" rel="nofollow">December 8, 2025 edition of Steve Vladeck&#39;s &quot;One First&quot; <em>Substack</em> (&quot;On the docket&quot; section)</a><br>
--<a href="https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=5463935" rel="nofollow">&quot;Statewide injunctions,&quot; by Jacob Hamburger, work in progress</a><br>
--<a href="https://heinonline.org/HOL/Page?handle=hein.journals/aulr72&div=26&g_sent=1&casa_token=2JnUWN8DHM4AAAAA:Q4P8lGHEjFEeEV2PQczt-Ry88LuAGYmRFHYDE9Jk9RXGSYA3Jl_SaW4QHdxf3UdPgsdIIgc&collection=journals" rel="nofollow">&quot;The rise of the &#39;immigrant-as-injury&#39; theory of state standing,&quot; by Jennifer Lee Koh, in the <em>American University Law Review</em></a></p>

<p><strong>MUSIC CREDITS (all songs from Free Music Archive, and each song carries the &quot;cc by&quot; license)</strong><br>
--&quot;The Trail,&quot; by Unheard Music Concepts<br>
--&quot;Funky End,&quot; by Pawel Feszczuk<br>
--&quot;Pleasure,&quot; by Haunted Me<br>
--&quot;Caress me to sleep,&quot; by rui</p><p>Special Guest: Jacob Hamburger.</p>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<p>In this conversation, we discuss the history of birthright citizenship in the U.S., as well as the current controversy, including the role of the courts, especially the Supreme Court. My guest is <a href="https://jacob-hamburger.squarespace.com/" rel="nofollow">Jacob Hamburger</a>. Hamburger is Assistant Professor of Law in the Marquette Law School. Previously, he taught at Cornell Law, and he earned his J.D. at the University of Chicago Law School. He teaches Immigration Law, Civil Procedure, and a seminar on Immigration Federalism. His research explores the legal processes at the federal, state, and local levels that shape the lives of noncitizens in the United States.</p>

<p><strong>OTHER LINKS</strong><br>
--<a href="https://www.nbcnews.com/video/jeb-bush-birthright-citizenship-is-part-of-our-global-heritage-509516867887" rel="nofollow">&quot;Jeb Bush: Birthright citizenship is part of our global [sic] heritage,&quot; video clip from NBC News</a><br>
--<a href="https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/2025/01/protecting-the-meaning-and-value-of-american-citizenship/" rel="nofollow">President Trump&#39;s executive order on birthright citizenship</a><br>
--<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_v._Wong_Kim_Ark" rel="nofollow"><em>United States v. Wong Kim Ark</em> Wikipedia entry</a><br>
--<a href="https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=5106022" rel="nofollow">&quot;The consequences of ending birthright citizenship,&quot; by Jacob Hamburger, in the Washington University Law Review</a><br>
--<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jus_soli" rel="nofollow"><em>Jus soli</em></a> vs. <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jus_sanguinis" rel="nofollow"><em>jus sanguinis</em></a> (Wiki entries)<br>
--<a href="https://www.stevevladeck.com/i/180843145/on-the-docket" rel="nofollow">December 8, 2025 edition of Steve Vladeck&#39;s &quot;One First&quot; <em>Substack</em> (&quot;On the docket&quot; section)</a><br>
--<a href="https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=5463935" rel="nofollow">&quot;Statewide injunctions,&quot; by Jacob Hamburger, work in progress</a><br>
--<a href="https://heinonline.org/HOL/Page?handle=hein.journals/aulr72&div=26&g_sent=1&casa_token=2JnUWN8DHM4AAAAA:Q4P8lGHEjFEeEV2PQczt-Ry88LuAGYmRFHYDE9Jk9RXGSYA3Jl_SaW4QHdxf3UdPgsdIIgc&collection=journals" rel="nofollow">&quot;The rise of the &#39;immigrant-as-injury&#39; theory of state standing,&quot; by Jennifer Lee Koh, in the <em>American University Law Review</em></a></p>

<p><strong>MUSIC CREDITS (all songs from Free Music Archive, and each song carries the &quot;cc by&quot; license)</strong><br>
--&quot;The Trail,&quot; by Unheard Music Concepts<br>
--&quot;Funky End,&quot; by Pawel Feszczuk<br>
--&quot;Pleasure,&quot; by Haunted Me<br>
--&quot;Caress me to sleep,&quot; by rui</p><p>Special Guest: Jacob Hamburger.</p>]]>
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