Episode 6

City of God

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September 16th, 2025

54 mins 28 secs

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About this Episode

Samuel Perry is the Sam K. Viersen Presidential Professor of Sociology at the University of Oklahoma. He has authored or co-authored over 100 peer-reviewed academic journal articles, and has authored or co-authored five books, including Taking America Back for God, as well as The Flag and the Cross. He’s also written for such journalistic outlets as The Dallas Morning News, Time Magazine, and The Washington Post. In this episode, we discuss Christian nationalism in the U.S.

OTHER LINKS
--"The Christian nationalism we need" (Keynote address at the 2024 National Conservatism Conference, by Sen. Josh Hawley)
--"What is Christian nationalism, exactly?" (essay at the New York Times, by David French)
--"White or woke Christian nationalists? How race moderates the link between Christian nationalism and progressive identities," by Samuel Perry, Allyson Shortle, Eric McDaniel, and Joshua Grubbs
--Profile for Amanda Tyler at the Baptist Joint Committee for Religious Liberty (BJC)
--"The Democrat who calls Trump a child of God" (article at The Economist about James Talarico)
--"Why are some Evangelicals drawn to--and stickying by--Trump? This pastor weighs in" (NPR interview of Pastro Chad Harvey, by Scott Detrow)

MUSIC CREDITS (all songs from Free Music Archive, and each song carries the "cc by" license)
--"The Trail," by Unheard Music Concepts
--"Post Drone," by Uuriter
--"Anti-Chill," by Jangwa
--"Cello," by Ketsa
--"Caress me to sleep," by rui